1 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Thank you for coming with us! So... 2 00:00:10,820 --> 00:00:14,420 How many have heard about the Google Summer of Code? 3 00:00:16,460 --> 00:00:16,530 introducing more about what is it and 4 00:00:16,530 --> 00:00:18,730 All right. Already, if you are not aware, I could be introducing more about what is it and 5 00:00:18,730 --> 00:00:18,840 and then talk more about what we are going All right. Already, if you are not aware, I could be 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,710 and then talk more about what we are going 7 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:26,730 to do in the session. So, can you raise the hand 8 00:00:26,730 --> 00:00:30,420 if you are already aware of the Google Summer of Code? 9 00:00:32,420 --> 00:00:34,840 ON. 10 00:00:36,510 --> 00:00:38,880 Thank you - I think most of you are aware, 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,880 it's bringing the student developers 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,710 into the open source community, it's all about that 13 00:00:43,710 --> 00:00:47,280 So, the session is going to be 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,930 mostly the students introducing their projects 15 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:53,200 and getting the feedback, and discussing with their mentors. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,330 If they are getting any questions from IRC, they can discuss 17 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:59,750 How they can improve the project in their 18 00:00:59,750 --> 00:01:01,750 ...Their ongoing projects. 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,730 OK. so let me introduce about myself. I am Jaminy, 20 00:01:06,730 --> 00:01:09,950 So, I come from Sri Lanka 21 00:01:09,950 --> 00:01:13,330 I am one of the coordinators for 22 00:01:13,330 --> 00:01:16,220 Google Summer of Code with Debian 23 00:01:16,220 --> 00:01:20,080 So, Debian has been participating in the Google Summer of Code 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,080 from 2005, and 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,000 it has been 13 years it has been participating, 26 00:01:25,060 --> 00:01:27,600 and we had a break in 2017 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,130 and now we are back in 2018 with Google Summer of Code 28 00:01:33,370 --> 00:01:36,570 and these are the teams for GSoC coordination 29 00:01:36,570 --> 00:01:38,570 I am representing the team 30 00:01:38,570 --> 00:01:42,480 Daniel Pocock, Alexander, and it's me 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,330 This year, we have accepted 25 students 32 00:01:48,330 --> 00:01:51,730 And that's the link for the projects 33 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:54,370 that are ongoing this year 34 00:02:00,130 --> 00:02:03,800 So, there is an interesting GSoC statistic this year 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,200 this year we have selected 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,400 I mean, this was from the Google Open Source blog, 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,400 and they said there are three students 38 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Four students accepted from Kosovo 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,400 And... 40 00:02:17,130 --> 00:02:20,910 The three students are from our Debian community, and they are here joining us 41 00:02:20,910 --> 00:02:22,280 joining with us, 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,310 to introduce more about their project 43 00:02:25,310 --> 00:02:28,150 I hope that, without wasting more time, 44 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:31,220 I could give the chance for the students to introduce, 45 00:02:31,220 --> 00:02:33,220 to talk more about their projects. 46 00:02:33,220 --> 00:02:35,220 Arthur, can you... 47 00:02:37,620 --> 00:02:41,330 [ audience clapping ] 48 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:52,910 So, you hear me? OK? 49 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:57,730 Yes? Nice. 50 00:02:57,730 --> 00:03:00,170 So... 51 00:03:00,170 --> 00:03:03,060 Hello, my name is Arthur del Esposto 52 00:03:03,060 --> 00:03:05,280 I am going to talk about my GSoC project 53 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,370 that is titled "Improving Distro Tracker to better support Debian teams" 54 00:03:09,110 --> 00:03:12,170 My mentor is Lucas Kanashiro and my co-mentor is Raphael Hertzog. 55 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:16,880 I will provide you some context about why we are doing this. 56 00:03:17,570 --> 00:03:18,640 So, basically, 57 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,130 Debian teams used to rely on Packages Entropy Tracker 58 00:03:22,260 --> 00:03:24,640 with the assistance that basically got some information about 59 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:29,150 the package from Debian, from Alioth, 60 00:03:29,150 --> 00:03:31,910 and display some kind of information 61 00:03:32,020 --> 00:03:36,220 inside tables and some categories. 62 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:41,130 And we also had inside our Debiani infrastructure 63 00:03:41,130 --> 00:03:44,370 the tracker.debian.org, which you probably have used before, 64 00:03:44,420 --> 00:03:49,200 that basically gathers the same sort of information from several sources inside Debian 65 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,040 and puts this in a Web application. 66 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,040 So, for example, you have the base 67 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,040 of a specific package, the Web defaults, 68 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,930 and you can get all the information related to that package. 69 00:04:01,460 --> 00:04:03,770 And what we want to do, because... 70 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:07,860 that has not been maintained anymore 71 00:04:07,860 --> 00:04:10,280 and also, we used to try the 72 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,280 package opposed to understand Alioth. 73 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,480 And what we really want to do 74 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,640 is just, maintainers who support a team 75 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,600 should their health of their packages 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,240 and to prioritize their work efforts 77 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,020 by migrating the PET features 78 00:04:23,020 --> 00:04:25,020 to Distro Tracker, and also 79 00:04:25,020 --> 00:04:27,600 we want to track Salsa repositories instead of Alioth. 80 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:30,710 So, what are the results we have so far? 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:32,220 So, basically... 82 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:34,220 if you enter a team page, 83 00:04:34,220 --> 00:04:36,220 of anything inside Distro Tracker 84 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:38,220 you are going to get this kind of table 85 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:40,220 so basically you have the first column 86 00:04:40,220 --> 00:04:42,220 with the package name 87 00:04:42,220 --> 00:04:44,220 the second column with the changelog version 88 00:04:44,220 --> 00:04:46,220 and the VCS of that package, 89 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:48,220 the third column with the archive version, 90 00:04:48,220 --> 00:04:50,220 we also are tracking the bugs here 91 00:04:50,220 --> 00:04:52,220 and the last column 92 00:04:52,220 --> 00:04:54,220 has the upstream version. 93 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:56,060 OK, of this package. 94 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,910 And, another interesting feature 95 00:04:59,910 --> 00:05:01,910 that we are providing you is that if 96 00:05:01,910 --> 00:05:03,910 you pass the mouse over 97 00:05:03,910 --> 00:05:05,910 one of those fields, you are going to get 98 00:05:05,910 --> 00:05:08,510 more detailed information about that specific field. 99 00:05:08,510 --> 00:05:10,510 OK, so for example here we have 100 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:13,440 the information links to BTS 101 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,440 related to the bugs 102 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,440 that exist for the package. 103 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,800 We also provide some categories 104 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,800 so basically we could have 105 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,800 more than one category of package tables 106 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,800 for example, you could have like 107 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,800 packages with RC bugs, 108 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,800 packages that have a new version 109 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,800 in the upstream, and we have 110 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:36,800 specific pages where each of these 111 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,800 package tables. OK? 112 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,800 And we have 113 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,800 a large number of teams 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,800 inside Debian, inside this specific -- 115 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,800 specifically inside the Distro Tracker, 116 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,800 so we also provide this 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,800 autocomplete text field 118 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,800 so you can easily find 119 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,660 your team, the team that you are interested in. 120 00:05:56,840 --> 00:05:58,260 And... 121 00:05:58,260 --> 00:06:01,330 that was my resource, and so far we have 122 00:06:01,330 --> 00:06:03,330 faced some challenges, 123 00:06:03,330 --> 00:06:05,330 first is that Distro Tracker 124 00:06:05,330 --> 00:06:07,860 has a generic purpose architecture 125 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:10,480 because it should be used by several 126 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,480 distros, so it's also being 127 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,480 used by the Kali communoity, so basically 128 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,480 everything you have to do hou have to make it 129 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,480 extensible, to design it to 130 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,480 be extensible by this specific application 131 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,770 that implements that specific features from 132 00:06:22,770 --> 00:06:25,660 their distros. 133 00:06:25,660 --> 00:06:28,220 Also, the database design is challenging, because 134 00:06:28,220 --> 00:06:31,440 we have to collect all this data from several 135 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,860 database tables 136 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:37,350 and some of these 137 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:41,060 context is realized in JSON fields inside the database 138 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:43,310 so it's not easy to get these. And also, 139 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:45,310 we have faced some problems, 140 00:06:45,310 --> 00:06:47,310 some performance problems, because we are 141 00:06:47,310 --> 00:06:49,310 we are handling a large number of table cells 142 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:51,310 dynamically, so basically we are building 143 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:53,310 it of these table cells 144 00:06:53,310 --> 00:06:55,310 in run time. 145 00:06:57,310 --> 00:07:00,280 And, until the end of GSoC, I plan to 146 00:07:00,280 --> 00:07:02,280 create a cache mechanism, I am already 147 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:04,280 working on that, proposed a merge request on it, 148 00:07:04,280 --> 00:07:06,860 to try to improve the performance of 149 00:07:06,860 --> 00:07:08,860 table rendering 150 00:07:08,860 --> 00:07:10,860 I also want to have all my 151 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:14,570 merge requests accepted 152 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:16,570 inside Salsa 153 00:07:16,570 --> 00:07:18,570 We also want to provide more 154 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:21,110 package tables with new categories 155 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:24,110 and also provide a new feature that 156 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:26,110 you could be able to sort the team 157 00:07:26,110 --> 00:07:28,110 for content based on columns, for example 158 00:07:28,110 --> 00:07:30,110 I want to sort my 159 00:07:30,110 --> 00:07:32,110 my table based on 160 00:07:32,110 --> 00:07:34,110 on the number of bugs, for example. 161 00:07:35,660 --> 00:07:37,750 And there is also that we 162 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:39,750 got good results so far, and 163 00:07:39,750 --> 00:07:42,420 I have received valuable feedback from the Debian community 164 00:07:42,420 --> 00:07:44,420 and I have a lot of ideas to continue 165 00:07:44,420 --> 00:07:46,420 working on this after the GSoC as well 166 00:07:46,420 --> 00:07:48,420 The GSoC has been 167 00:07:48,420 --> 00:07:50,420 an amazing experience, I have been learning a lot, 168 00:07:50,420 --> 00:07:53,840 which Kanashiro has had to log all the [?] 169 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,680 I look into contributing to Debian 170 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,680 of course 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,150 Thank you to the Debian community to 172 00:08:01,150 --> 00:08:03,620 provide me this opportunity to come here to DebConf 173 00:08:03,660 --> 00:08:04,970 to present my work. 174 00:08:04,970 --> 00:08:07,660 Lets get moving on, and thanks. 175 00:08:07,660 --> 00:08:11,200 [ audience clapping ] 176 00:08:22,620 --> 00:08:24,620 testing, 2, 3, testing... 177 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,440 So, my project is called 178 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,440 "Port Kali Packages to Debian" 179 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,550 and my mentors are Raphaël Hertzog 180 00:08:37,550 --> 00:08:39,550 and Gianfranco Costamagna. 181 00:08:39,550 --> 00:08:42,280 Unfortunately, they didn't come to 182 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,280 this year's DebConf, and 183 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,570 we are from the pkg-security 184 00:08:48,570 --> 00:08:50,570 tools packaging team, so this is 185 00:08:50,570 --> 00:08:52,570 something I have been working on 186 00:08:52,570 --> 00:08:55,170 for the past one year and a half 187 00:08:55,170 --> 00:08:57,170 I think I started packaging 188 00:08:57,170 --> 00:08:59,170 on 2016 189 00:08:59,170 --> 00:09:01,170 and in 2017 I started 190 00:09:01,170 --> 00:09:03,170 working on the security tools packaging 191 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:05,170 because this is something that really 192 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,170 interests me, so 193 00:09:07,170 --> 00:09:09,170 What actually is Kali Linux? 194 00:09:09,170 --> 00:09:11,170 Kali Linux is a digital 195 00:09:11,170 --> 00:09:13,170 forensics and pentesting distribution 196 00:09:13,170 --> 00:09:15,170 that has like lots of packages 197 00:09:15,170 --> 00:09:17,170 is by far 198 00:09:17,170 --> 00:09:19,170 the most used distribution 199 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:21,970 for "capture-the-flag" competitions 200 00:09:21,970 --> 00:09:24,220 and is based on unstable 201 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:26,220 and the thing is that Kali has 202 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:28,220 a more relaxed policy 203 00:09:28,220 --> 00:09:30,220 than Debian's, so that's the reason 204 00:09:30,220 --> 00:09:32,220 of the 205 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:34,220 differences between the packages 206 00:09:34,220 --> 00:09:37,440 I mean, the packages that Kali has and Debian hasn't 207 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,440 so, at first 208 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,440 I did gather some information about 209 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,930 what packages can I work on 210 00:09:43,930 --> 00:09:45,930 and what are the problems 211 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:47,930 that it should rather get them on Main 212 00:09:47,930 --> 00:09:49,930 So, I first started using 213 00:09:49,930 --> 00:09:51,930 this dashboard from Kali Linux, and they have 214 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:54,220 also used package 215 00:09:54,220 --> 00:09:56,680 the tracker system that we use on Debian 216 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:58,680 and this is a special dashboard 217 00:09:58,680 --> 00:10:00,680 where we can see how many 218 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,680 packages are on Kali Linux that 219 00:10:02,680 --> 00:10:04,680 aren't on Debian 220 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:06,680 at the time, and this is for today, so there are 221 00:10:06,680 --> 00:10:08,680 477 packages 222 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:10,680 but this includes dependencies 223 00:10:10,680 --> 00:10:12,680 and lots of packages are not 224 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,680 that really important, and 225 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:17,260 some of them are not installed by default on Kali 226 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:20,170 So, the first thing, 227 00:10:20,170 --> 00:10:21,530 I already knew some packages that 228 00:10:21,530 --> 00:10:23,530 I really would like to see on Debian, and 229 00:10:23,530 --> 00:10:25,530 the first one was Metasploit 230 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:27,820 because it's one of the most used 231 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:29,820 frameworks for pentesting 232 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:31,820 I have started by looking at 233 00:10:31,820 --> 00:10:33,820 what should I do 234 00:10:33,820 --> 00:10:35,820 and it was a really tough job 235 00:10:35,820 --> 00:10:38,060 because Metasploit is currently 236 00:10:38,060 --> 00:10:40,060 bundling all their gem dependencies 237 00:10:40,060 --> 00:10:42,440 Because of, this is a huge problem 238 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,620 there was a big discussion 239 00:10:43,620 --> 00:10:45,260 n the Debian mailing lists about that, 240 00:10:45,260 --> 00:10:47,260 but whatever, I use repology 241 00:10:47,260 --> 00:10:49,260 in order to see what distros 242 00:10:49,260 --> 00:10:51,260 were already packaging this stuff 243 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:53,260 and at the end, there should 244 00:10:53,260 --> 00:10:55,260 be around 40 packages 245 00:10:55,260 --> 00:10:57,260 that I had to package in order 246 00:10:57,260 --> 00:10:59,260 to see if it would work, because 247 00:10:59,260 --> 00:11:01,260 you have the version problem, because 248 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:03,260 bundling the distro version, and 249 00:11:03,260 --> 00:11:05,260 we decided not to do that 250 00:11:05,260 --> 00:11:07,260 during this project, so I 251 00:11:07,260 --> 00:11:09,260 had to look for other packages 252 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:11,260 and I didn't want to 253 00:11:11,260 --> 00:11:13,260 do this manually, so I 254 00:11:13,260 --> 00:11:15,260 developed a 255 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:17,260 kind of big shell script 256 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:19,060 it shouldn't be a shell script, it should be in 257 00:11:19,110 --> 00:11:20,880 a programming language, but 258 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,880 got big worked on, and to this 259 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,880 scripts I give 260 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,600 I input it a list of packages, and it 261 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,130 cloned all the Kali 262 00:11:29,130 --> 00:11:31,130 Git repositories for this package, 263 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:33,130 build each one of them, and did 264 00:11:33,130 --> 00:11:35,130 some basic checks, like if 265 00:11:35,130 --> 00:11:37,130 it is a default 266 00:11:37,130 --> 00:11:39,130 Kali package, it's 267 00:11:39,130 --> 00:11:41,130 buildable, because some of the packages 268 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:43,130 are not buildable because we don't have 269 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:45,130 the build dependencies in Debian right now, 270 00:11:45,130 --> 00:11:47,130 it checks if it is DEP5 compliant already, 271 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:49,130 if we need manpages, if we need 272 00:11:49,130 --> 00:11:51,130 hardening, if 273 00:11:51,130 --> 00:11:53,130 it is bundling some gems, and if 274 00:11:53,130 --> 00:11:55,130 there are [?], there is about 275 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,130 twenty or thirty something 276 00:11:57,130 --> 00:11:59,130 columns on here 277 00:11:59,130 --> 00:12:01,130 so you have lots of info 278 00:12:01,130 --> 00:12:03,130 and in order to know 279 00:12:03,130 --> 00:12:05,600 which are the most important issues 280 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,600 Raphaël gave me the idea to 281 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,600 look for the number of uploads that 282 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,600 the package had since 283 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,600 it hit Kali, so I 284 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,600 can only 285 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,600 just sort for the number of uploads 286 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,600 and I have the most important ones. 287 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,080 This made the process 288 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,080 really easy, like a lot more 289 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,080 easy, and I 290 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,080 am publishing this on our team's 291 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,080 wiki page, and I will keep using this 292 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,080 like, forever 293 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,080 because it really helps other people that 294 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,080 want to contribute to our team, and 295 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,530 this is another software 296 00:12:40,530 --> 00:12:42,530 that I tried, how many time do I have? 297 00:12:42,530 --> 00:12:44,530 OK 298 00:12:44,530 --> 00:12:46,530 another package that I really want to 299 00:12:46,530 --> 00:12:48,530 see on Debian is zaproxy, and 300 00:12:48,530 --> 00:12:50,530 for zaproxy, 301 00:12:50,530 --> 00:12:52,530 I had to do a manual checking, because it is 302 00:12:52,530 --> 00:12:54,530 a Java program, and 303 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,970 Java has... I really don't like Java, so 304 00:12:57,970 --> 00:12:59,970 they bundle like 305 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:01,970 ...zaproxy is great software, but 306 00:13:01,970 --> 00:13:03,970 they bundle some 307 00:13:03,970 --> 00:13:05,970 libraries, and I 308 00:13:05,970 --> 00:13:07,970 talked to upstream, and they are very 309 00:13:07,970 --> 00:13:09,970 receptive, and they 310 00:13:09,970 --> 00:13:11,970 want to help us, but 311 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:14,540 I didn't manage to package it yet, 312 00:13:14,540 --> 00:13:16,940 I think I will do it after GSoC 313 00:13:16,940 --> 00:13:18,940 but there are 314 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:20,940 some packages that we need to introduce 315 00:13:20,940 --> 00:13:22,940 on Debian. Some of the packages that zaproxy 316 00:13:22,940 --> 00:13:24,940 upstream is thinking about 317 00:13:24,940 --> 00:13:26,940 dropping, and putting just 318 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:28,740 on the extensions, because 319 00:13:28,740 --> 00:13:28,940 the core doesn't need them, on the extensions, because 320 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:30,940 the core doesn't need them, 321 00:13:30,940 --> 00:13:32,940 and some 322 00:13:32,940 --> 00:13:34,940 of the packages are old, and stuff like that, 323 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:36,940 we have 324 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:38,940 there is a lot of problems you can have 325 00:13:38,940 --> 00:13:40,940 like... there was a 326 00:13:40,940 --> 00:13:43,680 package which was GPL licensed 327 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:45,680 but it was linking against 328 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:47,680 OpenSSL, and in order 329 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:49,680 to do that, you need to either add 330 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:51,680 the exemption to your license 331 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:53,680 like, talk to upstream, and 332 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:55,680 it cooperative upstream, 333 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:57,680 it is a software which is used 334 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,680 to break 335 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:01,680 WiFi password, 336 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,680 like, doing offline cracking 337 00:14:03,680 --> 00:14:05,680 and upsream decided to change its license 338 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:07,680 to BSD license 339 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,680 so we could release that on Debian. I 340 00:14:09,680 --> 00:14:11,680 can't remember right now if it's on the NEW queue 341 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:13,680 or if it already hit 342 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,680 unstable, but I think is on the NEW queue. 343 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:19,680 So, in the end, 344 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,680 the results are, I made the script, 345 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,680 which is going to be used by 346 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,680 some time. There are some 347 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,480 fixes that can be 348 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:27,680 can, that will fixes that can be 349 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,680 can, that will 350 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,680 have to do on the script to make it better 351 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,680 to make the checking better, because 352 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,680 we still have some corner cases where 353 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,680 it doesn't work really well, 354 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,680 we got some new packages in Debian, 355 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,680 which is really good. I had to 356 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,680 make some upstream contributions, because 357 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,680 for some packages I wrote 358 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,680 their manpage, and I sent it 359 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,680 to upstream, there was this 360 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,680 company of software that 361 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,680 changed its licensing to be like 362 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,680 correctly compliant with 363 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,680 OpenSSL license, and 364 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,800 and we got now a better 365 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Kali and Debian for its users, because 366 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,800 when a package is just 367 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:05,800 in Kali, they don't like 368 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,800 to do hardening, 369 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,800 that's one example of things that 370 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 gets better when the package hits Debian 371 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:11,800 because gets better when the package hits Debian 372 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 because 373 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,800 we enable hardening 374 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,800 sometimes we see problems that makes 375 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,800 the package to 376 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,800 fail to build, and then we fix that, 377 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:23,800 upload to Debian, and when the package hits 378 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,800 unstable, Kali starts 379 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,800 taking this package from Debian, and 380 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,800 they can use our infrastructure 381 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,800 to do some QA 382 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,800 and stuff like that, and they 383 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,570 there are two people from Kali that I know at least, 384 00:15:36,570 --> 00:15:38,570 Raphaël and Sophie, and they work 385 00:15:38,570 --> 00:15:40,570 on Debian also, on our team, so 386 00:15:40,570 --> 00:15:42,570 when there's a new release, they upload 387 00:15:42,570 --> 00:15:44,570 the release on Debian, 388 00:15:44,570 --> 00:15:46,570 so Debian users win 389 00:15:46,570 --> 00:15:48,570 by that also, and 390 00:15:48,570 --> 00:15:50,570 they already did lots of work 391 00:15:50,570 --> 00:15:52,570 on their packages, so 392 00:15:52,570 --> 00:15:54,570 yes, I think that's 393 00:15:56,570 --> 00:15:58,570 the summary of the results 394 00:15:58,570 --> 00:16:00,570 Thank you. 395 00:16:00,570 --> 00:16:04,540 [ audience clapping ] 396 00:16:25,250 --> 00:16:27,250 There! 397 00:16:27,250 --> 00:16:29,250 This is OK. 398 00:16:31,250 --> 00:16:33,250 Hello, I am Enkelena Haxhiu 399 00:16:33,250 --> 00:16:35,250 I am from the Republic of Kosovo, and 400 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:38,000 I am here to represent my Google Summer of Code 401 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,000 project. My mentors are 402 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,000 Bruno Milena and Gabriela. 403 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,000 So, my project is 404 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 a Mozilla Firefox 405 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 web extension to 406 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 give free and... 407 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,250 to give free software alternatives 408 00:16:52,250 --> 00:16:54,250 to the apps on the Internet, so to have 409 00:16:54,250 --> 00:16:56,250 avoiding non-free 410 00:16:56,250 --> 00:16:58,400 apps and sites. 411 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,400 So, the goals for this project 412 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,400 were that 413 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,400 while the user is surfing 414 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,400 on the Internet, the moment that he 415 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,400 uses a non-free 416 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,400 software, 417 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,770 my extension will detect it 418 00:17:12,770 --> 00:17:14,770 and then give an 419 00:17:14,770 --> 00:17:17,510 alternative to it, a free software alternative. 420 00:17:17,510 --> 00:17:19,510 The user should be able 421 00:17:19,510 --> 00:17:21,510 to stop it when it's annoying, 422 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:23,510 and the notifications should be 423 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,510 only once persession, 424 00:17:25,510 --> 00:17:27,510 and we wanted to have like a 425 00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:29,510 database through self-hosted 426 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:31,510 API, or to use 427 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:33,510 a free software device 428 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,510 and then all this database 429 00:17:35,510 --> 00:17:37,510 show it on our Web page. 430 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:39,510 I started by making 431 00:17:39,510 --> 00:17:41,510 by making 432 00:17:41,510 --> 00:17:43,510 the user experience design, 433 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:45,510 based on that, because 434 00:17:45,510 --> 00:17:47,850 should work like, should work fine, 435 00:17:47,850 --> 00:17:49,850 I made some sketches and mockups 436 00:17:49,850 --> 00:17:51,850 and then the persona 437 00:17:51,850 --> 00:17:53,850 and then the finding the bad habits of apps, 438 00:17:53,850 --> 00:17:55,850 like research, and 439 00:17:55,850 --> 00:17:57,850 I started inmplementing it by 440 00:17:57,850 --> 00:17:59,850 coding it, I used Mozilla 441 00:17:59,850 --> 00:18:01,850 API to make my extension 442 00:18:01,850 --> 00:18:03,850 communicate with the Web browser API 443 00:18:03,850 --> 00:18:05,850 I created a 444 00:18:05,850 --> 00:18:07,850 JSON data file, it's like 445 00:18:07,850 --> 00:18:09,850 a proof of concept to just take 446 00:18:09,850 --> 00:18:11,850 the data, because this is going to be 447 00:18:11,850 --> 00:18:13,850 later in a real database. 448 00:18:13,850 --> 00:18:15,850 So the code 449 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:17,850 logic, do 450 00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:19,850 select and display the alternatives 451 00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:21,850 based on the current 452 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:23,850 active website, is that 453 00:18:23,850 --> 00:18:25,850 we should get the URL, 454 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:27,850 identify it by sending... 455 00:18:27,850 --> 00:18:29,850 Identify it, and then to send 456 00:18:29,850 --> 00:18:31,850 to that JSON file, check 457 00:18:31,850 --> 00:18:33,850 and, based on 458 00:18:33,850 --> 00:18:35,850 that, to give an alternative. 459 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:37,850 If it exists, of course. We did 460 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:39,850 We don't want to annoy the user 461 00:18:39,850 --> 00:18:41,850 like, to show too much notifications 462 00:18:41,850 --> 00:18:43,850 so we made it only once 463 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:45,850 per session for the current app, 464 00:18:45,850 --> 00:18:47,850 and it has the ability to 465 00:18:47,850 --> 00:18:49,850 stop and start it. We use the 466 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:51,850 local storage to hold the 467 00:18:51,850 --> 00:18:53,850 user settings 468 00:18:53,850 --> 00:18:55,850 and then we have to present this 469 00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:57,850 free software list through 470 00:18:57,850 --> 00:18:59,850 a web page that is generated by 471 00:18:59,850 --> 00:19:01,850 that database. 472 00:19:01,850 --> 00:19:03,850 This is like a simple diagram 473 00:19:03,850 --> 00:19:05,850 of basically what I just said. 474 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:10,200 These are some screenshots with words 475 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,600 for example, Dropbox is a nonfree 476 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:15,620 software, and this is 477 00:19:15,620 --> 00:19:17,820 the notification that it gets 478 00:19:18,220 --> 00:19:20,940 it says, "Dropbox has open source alternatives 479 00:19:20,940 --> 00:19:23,710 like seafile", 480 00:19:23,710 --> 00:19:25,710 and then, I have here 481 00:19:25,710 --> 00:19:28,250 the web page that it gets 482 00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,770 the extension popup 483 00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:33,340 and all these things. This is how it looks like. 484 00:19:33,340 --> 00:19:36,340 And then, i made a project website 485 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:38,910 which holds all the data 486 00:19:38,910 --> 00:19:40,910 I made the design of it and 487 00:19:40,910 --> 00:19:42,910 the frontend and the data generation. 488 00:19:42,910 --> 00:19:44,910 I plan to leave this open 489 00:19:44,910 --> 00:19:47,400 so developers can add stuff there 490 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,820 to the database, and then 491 00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:51,820 generates it, and 492 00:19:51,820 --> 00:19:54,340 it goes, like, right away to the 493 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:57,050 to the project website. 494 00:19:57,050 --> 00:19:59,050 I don't need to hard-code... 495 00:19:59,050 --> 00:20:00,140 hard-code it or something. 496 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:02,140 Then I made the documentation of it, 497 00:20:02,140 --> 00:20:04,140 I split it into three sections, 498 00:20:05,050 --> 00:20:07,220 in the information about the project, 499 00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:09,220 general things, 500 00:20:09,220 --> 00:20:11,220 what's the purpose, how it works, and 501 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:13,220 the second one is the contribution, 502 00:20:13,220 --> 00:20:15,480 how can developers contribute 503 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,800 to it, and the third one 504 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,800 is about 505 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,800 the technical aspects, like 506 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,800 debugging, and cloning the repo for new 507 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,280 developers. So this is like 508 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,280 an example of it. 509 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,280 And for the future, 510 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,280 I plan to continue my 511 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,880 project, even after GSoC 512 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,880 the first thing I need to do 513 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,880 like, probably now, I am 514 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,880 going to put it in the 515 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,880 Mozilla Firefox market, 516 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:42,880 and later I can make it 517 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,880 for other browsers like Chromium 518 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,880 but we need to change the 519 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,880 API there, and I thought 520 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,880 the package could get in Debian, because 521 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,880 while I was here, I learnt about 522 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,880 packaging and 523 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,880 upstreaming and all that stuff, so 524 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,880 I think I am probably going to do that 525 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,880 but not for now, because I want 526 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,880 my users to be 527 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,880 like, all Internet users, not just 528 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,800 Debian operating system users. 529 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,800 Another thing is that I want 530 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800 it to be integrated with other free 531 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,800 software services, like SUSI 532 00:21:14,310 --> 00:21:16,650 artificial intelligence, and 533 00:21:16,650 --> 00:21:18,650 Thunderbird in upstream 534 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:20,650 SUSI is a 535 00:21:20,650 --> 00:21:22,650 speaking and texting artificial 536 00:21:22,650 --> 00:21:24,650 intelligence that gives you responses 537 00:21:24,650 --> 00:21:26,650 and I plan to use 538 00:21:26,650 --> 00:21:28,650 that giving the suggestions 539 00:21:28,650 --> 00:21:30,650 by speech. 540 00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:32,650 On my extension, 541 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:34,650 with Thunderbird I felt it to be 542 00:21:34,650 --> 00:21:36,650 like, to work 543 00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:38,650 like in Mozilla, but, you know, when a 544 00:21:38,650 --> 00:21:41,140 user gets an e-mail from a non-free side, 545 00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:43,140 then it should 546 00:21:43,140 --> 00:21:45,140 send a suggestion, 547 00:21:45,140 --> 00:21:47,140 "use this, don't use this", like 548 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:49,140 I just basically explained, 549 00:21:49,140 --> 00:21:51,140 and with upstream, I thought that 550 00:21:51,140 --> 00:21:53,140 all my database should be 551 00:21:53,140 --> 00:21:55,140 there, to put it there, and 552 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:57,140 it could help upstream, and it can 553 00:21:57,140 --> 00:21:59,140 it could help me. 554 00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:01,140 Here, I have my 555 00:22:01,140 --> 00:22:03,140 experience with Debian, I heard about Debian 556 00:22:03,140 --> 00:22:05,140 last year, in a girl's 557 00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:07,140 and then later 558 00:22:07,140 --> 00:22:09,140 in Tirana, in Albania, where 559 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:11,910 in a Debian bugs squashing party, 560 00:22:11,910 --> 00:22:13,910 a DD was there, and 561 00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:15,910 we planned on 562 00:22:15,910 --> 00:22:17,910 -- sorry -- 563 00:22:17,910 --> 00:22:19,910 working a bit more than 564 00:22:19,910 --> 00:22:21,910 With Daniel Pocock we had 565 00:22:21,910 --> 00:22:23,910 we made... 566 00:22:23,910 --> 00:22:25,910 A speech together, we gave under 567 00:22:25,910 --> 00:22:27,910 in the biggest open source conference 568 00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:29,910 in the whole Balkans, it was about 569 00:22:29,910 --> 00:22:31,910 Free Software. And about my project, 570 00:22:31,910 --> 00:22:33,910 I read a whole book to 571 00:22:33,910 --> 00:22:35,910 understsand it a little bit more, to be 572 00:22:36,020 --> 00:22:37,910 more prepared. And I want to 573 00:22:38,050 --> 00:22:39,910 thank the Debian people for giving me this 574 00:22:39,910 --> 00:22:41,910 opportunity to talk here, in front of you, 575 00:22:41,910 --> 00:22:44,710 and I hope I'll be a DD soon. 576 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,910 Thank you! 577 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,600 So... Yeah, it's working. 578 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,280 So, before... My name is Elena 579 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Elena Gjevukaj, and I come from Kosovo. 580 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,450 Before I start, 581 00:24:03,450 --> 00:24:06,310 to present my project, I want to mention that 582 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:08,310 this year in the GSoC is the first time 583 00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:10,310 that our country is participating. 584 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:14,250 It was funny, because even when we had 585 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:16,250 applied for the GSoC, we had 586 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:18,250 to ask Google to add 587 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:20,250 our country in the list, so 588 00:24:20,250 --> 00:24:22,250 you know how... 589 00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:24,250 We thought that we didn't 590 00:24:24,250 --> 00:24:26,250 have any more opportunities 591 00:24:26,250 --> 00:24:28,250 or any... 592 00:24:28,250 --> 00:24:30,250 we just thought they aren't going to accept us. 593 00:24:30,250 --> 00:24:32,250 But hopefully for us, we have 594 00:24:32,250 --> 00:24:34,250 a great mentor, 595 00:24:34,250 --> 00:24:36,250 Daniel Pocock, I think many of you 596 00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:38,250 guys know him, 597 00:24:38,250 --> 00:24:40,250 and he helped us 598 00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:42,250 with everything that we needed 599 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:45,420 for all of the applications 600 00:24:45,420 --> 00:24:47,420 and everything else. 601 00:24:47,420 --> 00:24:49,420 So, going back to my project, 602 00:24:49,420 --> 00:24:51,420 My project 603 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:53,420 is basically what I just said 604 00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:55,420 right now. So, knowing that 605 00:24:55,420 --> 00:24:57,420 newcomers to the open source have a lot 606 00:24:57,420 --> 00:24:59,420 of problems to, 607 00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:01,420 to just set up 608 00:25:01,420 --> 00:25:05,330 a development environment 609 00:25:05,330 --> 00:25:08,000 and 610 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,000 that's why we wanted 611 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 to create... 612 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,000 to create a GUI 613 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,660 so my project is a new contributor... 614 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:18,660 contributor wizard 615 00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:20,660 and is basically a GUI that 616 00:25:20,660 --> 00:25:22,660 could be distributed as a 617 00:25:22,660 --> 00:25:24,660 package, and 618 00:25:24,660 --> 00:25:26,660 to help the newcomer 619 00:25:26,660 --> 00:25:28,660 to Debian and open source 620 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:30,660 to start their work 621 00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:34,060 on the open source projects. 622 00:25:34,060 --> 00:25:36,060 For example, if you want to 623 00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:38,600 apply in GSoC or Outreachy 624 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,600 or other programs like this 625 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,600 you will need a lot of things 626 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,600 because if you are a new person, 627 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600 you are newcoming to Debian, or 628 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,600 any other version of 629 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,600 Linux, you will have a lot of 630 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,600 problems to start up, so 631 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,600 what we want to do with this 632 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,600 is to help students 633 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,600 to run this computer 634 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 program in their desktop 635 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,600 and have to understand 636 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,600 everything that they need, for example 637 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,600 they will need for sure, how to use 638 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600 IRC, they will need 639 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,600 basically a blog to explain 640 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,600 their work or add portfolio on it, 641 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,600 so they will need 642 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,600 a PGP or 643 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,600 other things like this 644 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,600 that we usually use in open source 645 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600 so, my part of the project 646 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,600 in this 647 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,600 in this month of 648 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,600 the Google Summer of Code, 649 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,600 was the blog module, 650 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,600 basically, I created 651 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,600 a module that will 652 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,600 generate automatically 653 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,660 ...build dynamic and static websites. 654 00:26:39,660 --> 00:26:41,800 And the other part 655 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800 of it was that I did a lot of 656 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800 research on what students 657 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,800 need for... 658 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,800 and we should include in the research 659 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 ... 660 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Another thing that I want to 661 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800 mention is that students 662 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800 don't know that much... 663 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,930 They have problems using the terminal 664 00:27:01,930 --> 00:27:03,930 or installing 665 00:27:03,930 --> 00:27:06,800 programs when they have usually installed Debian, 666 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,800 I will make sure 667 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,800 add that type of tutorials, or 668 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800 for example 669 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,800 description of something 670 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,800 that will help them, how 671 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800 to proceed and apply, and 672 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,800 maybe be a successful applicant 673 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800 for GSoC. So, that's it. 674 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,800 Thank you! 675 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,660 [ audience clapping ] 676 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,200 Hello everyone! 677 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,200 My name is Diellza Shabani 678 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200 and I also come from Kosovo, 679 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,200 I am a student of Computer Science 680 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,200 and Engineering, 681 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,200 I'm finishing my studies 682 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,200 this year hopefully, 683 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,200 so I am also doing 684 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,200 a Google Summer of Code project, 685 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,200 I haven't prepared any slides, 686 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200 because I 687 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,200 didn't see it necessary, 688 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,800 so, my project's name is 689 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800 "Click to dial from 690 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800 Linux Desktop", and 691 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,800 my mentor is Thomas Levine, 692 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,800 he couldn't join us 693 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,800 at the conference this year, 694 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800 so, what I have been 695 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,800 working on this project is that 696 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,800 we are three students 697 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800 on this project, because it's really 698 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,800 a big thing, we started 699 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800 working in this last year 700 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,800 in the [?] hackathon, 701 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,800 in [?], 702 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800 we started doing the project 703 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800 in Python first, 704 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800 we did some 705 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,130 pop-ups and some really basic things, 706 00:28:52,130 --> 00:28:54,130 ...So, 707 00:28:54,130 --> 00:28:56,130 we thought to continue that, but 708 00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:58,130 now that the project is 709 00:28:58,130 --> 00:29:00,130 bigger, and there are three students 710 00:29:00,130 --> 00:29:02,600 doing this, it is separated 711 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,600 in two different things, and 712 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,600 the two other students 713 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,600 are doing something else, 714 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,600 and we plan to do 715 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,600 something like mobile 716 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600 application, 717 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,530 but still haven't figured it out. 718 00:29:17,530 --> 00:29:19,530 For the moment, we are 719 00:29:19,530 --> 00:29:21,530 doing only a website, 720 00:29:21,530 --> 00:29:23,530 a Web application, 721 00:29:23,530 --> 00:29:25,530 and 722 00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,530 we are working on 723 00:29:27,530 --> 00:29:29,530 the existing projects 724 00:29:29,530 --> 00:29:31,530 that Google Summer of Code students have 725 00:29:31,530 --> 00:29:33,530 done before, like Omnitel 726 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:35,530 and Lumicall 727 00:29:35,530 --> 00:29:37,530 I am basically working on them 728 00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:39,530 and making changes, an doing 729 00:29:39,530 --> 00:29:41,530 task classes 730 00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,530 and methods, so... 731 00:29:43,530 --> 00:29:45,530 After we finish that, I think 732 00:29:45,530 --> 00:29:47,530 we will continue with the website, and 733 00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:49,530 hopefully, 734 00:29:49,530 --> 00:29:51,530 because the GSoC is really 735 00:29:51,530 --> 00:29:53,530 coming to an end, 736 00:29:53,530 --> 00:29:55,530 and we have not very much time 737 00:29:55,530 --> 00:29:57,530 left. But... 738 00:29:57,530 --> 00:29:59,530 After this, we will probably be working 739 00:29:59,530 --> 00:30:01,530 in doing the mobile app. 740 00:30:01,530 --> 00:30:03,530 However, this is 741 00:30:03,530 --> 00:30:05,530 all I have to tell 742 00:30:05,530 --> 00:30:07,530 right now about my project 743 00:30:09,530 --> 00:30:11,530 the opportunity to be here and to 744 00:30:11,530 --> 00:30:13,530 present for you guys. 745 00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:15,530 Thank you. 746 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:34,730 OK, so... Can you hear me? 747 00:30:34,730 --> 00:30:37,600 thank you very much, thank you for OK, so... Can you hear me? 748 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:38,260 OK. thank you very much, thank you for 749 00:30:38,260 --> 00:30:39,600 OK. 750 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600 So, hi everyone! 751 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,600 I am not actually a Google Summer of Code student, 752 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,600 but I have been an Outreachy intern 753 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,600 around one year ago. 754 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600 So, first 755 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,600 before continuing my 756 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,600 talk, I'd like to ask 757 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600 how many of you are coming from 758 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,600 a social background, and have 759 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,600 studied for computer science or 760 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600 science-related? 761 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,600 OK, great. 762 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,600 So we got three other people 763 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,600 in the audience. So 764 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,600 I am Kristi Progri, and I am actually, 765 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600 I finished my university for 766 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600 international affairs and diplomacy 767 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,600 and in the beginning I thought 768 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,600 that this was exactly the school, 769 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,600 that I'd never ever find something 770 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600 to do with my life, 771 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600 but then, I thought that, OK, 772 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,600 probably it would be nice 773 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,600 if I could just merge it with 774 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,600 something that is tech-related, 775 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,600 and free software, since during that time 776 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,600 I was also part of the 777 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,600 free software community 778 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,600 I ended up in the end having a diploma 779 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600 thesis for on-line diplomacy, 780 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,600 and this was 781 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,600 what kind of opened 782 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,400 the doors further to 783 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:49,600 continue, and to get the doors further to 784 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,600 continue, and to get 785 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600 to know more 786 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,600 for political and Internet. 787 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,600 So, I applied 788 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,600 in Mozilla 789 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,600 in a team for taking part 790 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,600 in the Outreachy, working with the 791 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,600 diversity and inclusion team there, 792 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,600 building up the 793 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,600 strategy for conducting 794 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,600 first language interviews, since 795 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,600 one of the barriers that we had during 796 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,600 all this time was that 797 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,600 people coming from different... 798 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,600 different countries 799 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,600 and not speaking 800 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,600 everyone by default English, so 801 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600 trying to have a strategy 802 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,600 on how to conduct the language... 803 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600 On how to conduct interviews, and 804 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,600 to grow up communities in the local 805 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,600 aspect, to really help to 806 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,600 take further steps to 807 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,600 all the free software initiatives, and 808 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,600 everything that's regarding to that. 809 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,600 So 810 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,600 this was 811 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,600 kind of the aspect from the field 812 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,600 doing on the Outreachy. For those 813 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,600 who don't know Outreachy, it's 814 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,600 exactly... It is an intership that 815 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,600 that lasts for three months, 816 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600 it happens twice per year, 817 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,600 it has 818 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,600 kind of the same ideology 819 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,600 as the Google Summer of Code, but 820 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,600 it's also for people that 821 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,600 are not students but have 822 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,600 finished their 823 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,600 studies. 824 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600 and besides Outreachy and 825 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600 the Google Summer of Code, there also 826 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,600 are initiatives that 827 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,600 help out students 828 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,600 to continue and 829 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600 getting on more knowledge regarding 830 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,600 the free software, such as 831 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,600 Rails' Girls Summer of Code, 832 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,600 I don't know if you have heard about that, it is 833 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600 an internship happening on the 834 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,600 during the summer, it lasts 835 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,600 for three months, 836 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600 three months I think, 837 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,600 and it's actually 838 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600 only regarding coding. But 839 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600 until now, I think, for as far 840 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,600 as I know, Outreachy is the only one 841 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,600 that can, 842 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,600 that requires also people that do not have 843 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600 technical 844 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600 skills, or at least that have 845 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,600 not finished for it, 846 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 any technical 847 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,600 subject or degree. 848 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600 So, this was also 849 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,600 my short presentation 850 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,600 to say, and the 851 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,600 last one I think for the session, so 852 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,600 there is anyone in the audience 853 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,600 who'd like to make a question, any 854 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,600 suggestion or comment, please feel free 855 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,600 and thank you very much for 856 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,600 being here. 857 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,530 [ audience clapping ] 858 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,660 [Delib:] Hello. Jaminy, 859 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,330 So many of us are so interested in the 860 00:34:45,330 --> 00:34:47,330 the edges of Debian, 861 00:34:47,330 --> 00:34:49,330 and who is coming, and are they 862 00:34:49,330 --> 00:34:51,330 staying, and you have met 863 00:34:51,330 --> 00:34:53,330 so many mentees, 864 00:34:53,330 --> 00:34:55,330 and talked with so many mentors. Could you share 865 00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:57,330 with us a little bit about 866 00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:59,330 what is working well and 867 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:01,330 what might work a little better 868 00:35:01,330 --> 00:35:03,330 in the future? 869 00:35:07,930 --> 00:35:10,060 [Jaminy:] So, there are many newcomers 870 00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:12,060 coming from Google Summer of Code, 871 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:14,060 I think the main thing 872 00:35:14,060 --> 00:35:16,060 that actually happens is they should be 873 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:18,060 keep motivated and keep working on 874 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:20,060 after the Google Summer of Code, 875 00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:22,060 I feel that would be one of the 876 00:35:22,060 --> 00:35:24,060 major things they have to do 877 00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:26,060 even after the Google Summer of Code 878 00:35:35,730 --> 00:35:38,800 [Delib:] Do you have ideas of how 879 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,660 community members or the mentors 880 00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:43,660 could do things differently, so that 881 00:35:43,660 --> 00:35:46,260 they could stay more motivated? 882 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:48,260 Stay more interested? 883 00:35:51,130 --> 00:35:54,060 [Jaminy:] I think the mentors, it's all about the communication, 884 00:35:54,060 --> 00:35:56,060 I think they should keep communicating 885 00:35:56,060 --> 00:35:58,060 with the students and keep them 886 00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:00,060 giving suggestions 887 00:36:00,060 --> 00:36:02,060 and advice in 888 00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,060 them, how can they improve further on 889 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,060 their projects, 890 00:36:06,060 --> 00:36:08,060 and how they can keep moving 891 00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:10,060 keep... Moving on 892 00:36:10,060 --> 00:36:12,060 further with the project. 893 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,060 [Delib:] So, listening to what their interests are, 894 00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:16,060 and giving them ideas on how to 895 00:36:16,060 --> 00:36:17,200 pursue this interest? 896 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,200 [Jaminy:] Yes. 897 00:36:25,130 --> 00:36:29,000 [Tassia:] I have a question: Is it 898 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000 ...I have the impression that I might be wrong, so 899 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,000 [Jaminy:] Do you have questions for me, or 900 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,000 for students? [Tassia:] For you. 901 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,000 [Jaminy:] OK. 902 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,000 [Tassia:] Sorry [both laugh] 903 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000 But just, for 904 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,000 what I've been following, for 905 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,000 the past years, I thing that when students 906 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,000 enter work with a team 907 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000 my impression is that it's easier 908 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,000 for them to continue working afterwards. 909 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Is it 910 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,860 in comparison when 911 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,860 there are ad-hoc projects 912 00:36:57,860 --> 00:36:59,860 that some times don't 913 00:36:59,860 --> 00:37:01,860 continue being developed, 914 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:04,400 and I think, 915 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400 then the motivation might probably... 916 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,400 Do you perceive it? Or 917 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,400 you don't think it makes sense? 918 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,400 [Jaminy:] Currently I'm not, but I hope 919 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,400 to continue after my... 920 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,400 Now I'm currently doing early career, 921 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400 so I would prefer continuing 922 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,400 later. 923 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,400 [Tassia:] No, sorry, I think you didn't understand my question. 924 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400 It was about the projects 925 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,400 within teams, 926 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,400 like, lets say, the students that work with 927 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,400 the Perl team, or that work inside 928 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,400 another team 929 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,400 in comparison with just 930 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,400 one mentor and one 931 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,400 mentee 932 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,400 and if that 933 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,400 reflects on the 934 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,400 motivation of the student to continue 935 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,400 doing work for Debian 936 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,400 afterwards. Do you thing there is 937 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,400 a relation, or not? 938 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,400 [Jaminy:] Yes, I think there 939 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400 is, I mean, the 940 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,400 mentor-mentee relations keeps 941 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,400 going on? 942 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,400 eventyally they get your question probably? 943 00:38:05,730 --> 00:38:08,400 [Delib:] Do you think it's easier for students 944 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,400 to be part of a team, instead of 945 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,400 just one mentor? 946 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,400 [Jaminy:] Yes, I think they 947 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,400 get valious knowledge, so it's better to 948 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,400 be in a team 949 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400 than sticking to one mentor. 950 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,400 [Andreas:] Do we have some 951 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400 statistics? How many of 952 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400 the students have entered Debian? 953 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,400 or not? Because I have had three 954 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,400 GSoC students, and three Outreachy 955 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,400 students, and 956 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,400 none of them 957 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,400 really remained there. They are intererested, 958 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400 they are using Debian, but 959 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,400 my experience 960 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,400 or the result of my experience 961 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,400 was that I tried to give them tasks 962 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,400 which are easy to end, 963 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,400 which are small tasks, 964 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,400 and if they go, then that's not 965 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,260 ... How many people stayed in Debian? 966 00:38:53,260 --> 00:38:57,000 [Jaminy:] You mean... 967 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,060 You mean, from the past? 968 00:39:00,060 --> 00:39:02,060 [Andreas:] How many people stayed in Debian? 969 00:39:02,060 --> 00:39:04,060 of the students? 970 00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:06,060 From the past, yes. 971 00:39:10,060 --> 00:39:12,060 [?:] I think you can answer 972 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:14,060 after the session, because 973 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:14,860 we run out of time. 974 00:39:14,860 --> 00:39:16,860 [Jaminy:] OK. I'd like to take this opportunity 975 00:39:16,860 --> 00:39:18,860 to thank all the mentors 976 00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:20,860 who made this program successful. 977 00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:22,860 And you can feel free to talk to students 978 00:39:22,860 --> 00:39:24,860 after the session, and give them 979 00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:26,860 suggestions or feedback. 980 00:39:26,860 --> 00:39:28,860 Thank you! 981 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:32,660 [ Audience clapping ]