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*34c3 intro*

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Herald: the next talk is Marloes de Valk,
she's an artist and writer from the

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Netherlands and she's working with lots of
different materials and media and at the

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moment she's doing an 8-bit game, so the
topic is "why do we anthropomorphize

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computers and dehumanize ourselves in the
process?" and we have a mumble, which is

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doing the translation, the talk is in
English and we will translate into French

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and German.
Okay, give a big applause for Marloes!

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*applause*

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Marloes: Thank you and thank you all for

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coming, my name is Marloes de Valk and I'm
going to talk about anthropomorphization

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and I will approach this as a survival
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effective. And when I'm speaking of big
data, which is an umbrella term, my focus

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will be on the socio-technical aspect of
the phenomenon, the assumptions and

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beliefs surrounding Big Data and on
research using data exhaust or found data

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such as status updates on social media web
searches and credit card payments.

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Oh and now my slides are frozen. Oh my
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Audience: Have you tried turning it of and on again?

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Marloes: *laughs*
I will in a moment. gosh it's

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completely frozen... I'm very sorry,
technical staff I have to exit, if I can.

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I can't. Help! I have to get rid of
something I think, should we just kill it?

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That's so stupid yeah.

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But they're gonna have a coffee soon and then it's gonna

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Yes, force quit... I think I know
what the problem is. I'm sorry it's, it's

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really not working. All right let's see if
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Okay, okay so sorry for the interruption.

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I wanted to start by letting Silicon
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technology, really, sorry about the
interruption. So, Silicon Valley propaganda

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during our lifetime, we're about to see
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really something that blows my mind every
time I think about it. People have no idea

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how fast the world is changing and I want
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fills me with awe and with an
extraordinary sense of responsibility. I

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want to give you a sense of why now is
different why this decade the next decade

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is not interesting times
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human history and they truly are. What
we're talking about here is the notion

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that faster cheaper computing power which
is almost like a force of nature, is

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driving a whole slew of technologies,
technology being the force that takes what

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used to be scarce and make it abundant.
That is why we're heading towards this

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extraordinary age of abundance. The future
will not take care of itself as we know

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the world looks to America for progress
and America looks to California and if you

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ask most Californians where they get their
progress they'll point towards the bay,

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but here at the bay there is no place left
to point, so we have to create solutions

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and my goal is to simplify complexity,
take Internet technology and cross it with

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an old industry and magic and progress and
big things can happen. I really think

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there are two fundamental paths for
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forever, or some eventual extinction event
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prophecy but history suggests some
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alternative is becoming a spacefaring and
multiplanetary species and it will be like

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really fun to go, you'll have a great
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because it's cool. When it comes to space
I see it as my job to build infrastructure

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the hard way. I'm using my resources to
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next generation of people can have a
dynamic entrepreneurial solar system as

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interesting as we see on the internet
today. We want the population to keep

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growing on this planet, we want to keep
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makes me very angry, probably the most
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people who are alive and people who are
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plastic, that it's encoded and if
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code if you can crack the code you can
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should be no reason we can't defer entropy
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This is not about
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living forever off the blood of young
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It's about a Star Trek future where no one
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fair. Health technology is becoming an
information technology, where we can read

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and edit our own genomes clearly it is
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optional. Yes, our bodies are information
processing systems. We can enable human

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transformations that would rival Marvel
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super radiation resistance, you could have
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who'd be modified in this way and they
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gamma rays they were exposed to. Form a
culture connected with the ideology of the

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future, promoting technical progress
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immortality and cyborgization. We are at
the beginning of the beginning the first

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hour of day one, there have never been
more opportunities the greatest products

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of the next 25 years have not been
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We're going to take over the world, one
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is able to source create solve an answer
just what is your desire. I mean this is

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an almost godlike view of the future. AI
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digital manufacturing world, what is going
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the idea needs to spread before the
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the word, the gospel. If you believe in
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and help them understand the same things.
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humans, no question, but when I got that
thinking in my head about if I'm going to

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be treated in the future as a pet to these
smart machines, well I'm gonna treat my

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own pet dog really nice, but in the end we
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above us. Chaining it isn't gonna be the
solution as it will be stronger than any

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change could put on. the existential risk
that is associated with AI we will not be

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able to beat
AI, so then as the saying goes if you

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can't beat them, join them.
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this war by changing human behavior but
maybe we can build systems that are so

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locked down, that humans lose the ability
to make dumb mistakes until we gain the

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ability to upgrade the human brain, it's
the only way. Let's stop pretending we can

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hold back the development of intelligence
when there are clear massive short-term

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economic benefits to those who develop it
and instead understand the future and have

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it treat us like a beloved elder who
created it. As a company, one of our

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greatest cultural strengths is accepting
the fact that if you're gonna invent,

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you're gonna disrupt. Progress is
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advantage to having machines work for you
and solve problems for you. People are

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chasing that. AI, the term has become more
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and I'm probably okay with that. What
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hear of this. We are in a deadly race
between politics and technology, the fate

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of our world may depend on the effort of a
single person who builds or propagates the

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machinery of freedom, that makes the world
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These were all quotes. Every single one.
not only Silicon Valley CEO speak of

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Technology in mysterious ways, let's see
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Our official intelligence regulation,
"lets not regulate mathematics" a headline

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from import dot IO from May 2016 about the
European general data protection

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regulation and the article concludes
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cars, they should safely deliver users to
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overall reduce the number of accidents.
How they achieve this is irrelevant. With

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enough data the numbers speak for
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famous article "The end of theory" from
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"Google creates an AI that can teach
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from "The Independent. The
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division deepmind has unveiled "alpha go
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managed to accumulate thousands of years
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apologizing for their teen chat Bot gone
Nazi stating it wasn't their fault. "We're

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deeply sorry for the unintended and
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represent who we are or what we stand for
nor how we design Tay" and then the PC

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world article "AI just 3d printed a brand
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the subtitle reads
"the next Rembrandt project used data and

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deep learning to produce uncanny results".
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unveiled a 3d printed painting called "the
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the old master, not just PC world, but
many more articles touted similar titles

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presenting the painting to the public, as
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printer, AI and deep learning. It is clear
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worked on the project are not computers
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346 Rembrandt paintings by hand. The
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and researchers and it took them 18 months
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these messages is that the computer did
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consciousness in machines at this moment,
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was really us. We comprehend the role and
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but still intuitively approach them
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stories about the intelligent things
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the human-like agency of machines, so why
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I'd like to think of this as two survival

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strategies that found each other in big
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in the book "in our own image" describes
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the evolution of the modern mind humans
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language, through social language and this
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grooming of creating social cohesion.
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other people have thoughts, desires,
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Empathy. And this led to the describing of
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everything around us as agents possessing
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anthropomorphizing animals had a great
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predict their movements. They show through
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were picking up on this
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multiple experiments that we haven't
changed that much, through multiple

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experiments they show how people treat
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real people in places even though it test
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they responded to computers as they would
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attributing personality characteristics
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and even gender. Meaning we haven't
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Microsoft unfortunately misinterpreted
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yet much hated Clippy the paper clip,
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This survival strategy found its way into
another one. The Oracle. Survival through

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predicting events.
The second strategy is trying to predict

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the future, to steer events in our favor,
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death has inspired us throughout the ages
to try and predict the future and it has

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led us to consult Oracles and to creating
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Because we cannot predict the future in
the midst of lives many insecurities, we

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desperately crave the feeling of being in
control over our destiny, we have

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developed ways to calm our anxiety, to
comfort ourselves and what we do is we

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obfuscate that human hand in a generation
of messages that require an objective or

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authority feel, although disputed is
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delivered messages from her god Apollo in
a state of trance induced by intoxicating

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vapors arising from the chasm over which
she was seated, possesed by her God the

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Oracle spoke ecstatically and
spontaneously. Priests of the temple then

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translated her gibberish into the
prophesies, the seekers of advice were

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sent home with. And Apollo had spoken.
Nowadays we turn to data for advice. The

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Oracle of Big Data functions in a similar
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programmed by humans are fed data and
consequently spit out numbers that are

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then translated and interpreted by
researchers into the prophecies the

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seekers of advice are sent home with. The
bigger data the set, the more accurate the

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results. Data has spoken.
We are brought closer to the truth, to

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reality as it is, unmediated by us,
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This Oracle inspires great hope. It's a
utopia and this is best putting words in

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the article "The end of theory" by
Anderson where he states that with enough

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data the numbers can speak for themselves.
We can forget about taxonomy, ontology,

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psychology, who knows why people do what
they do. The point is they do it and we

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can track and measure it with
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the numbers speak for themselves. This
Oracle is of course embraced with great

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enthusiasm by database and storage
businesses as shown here in an Oracle

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presentation slide. High Five! And getting
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the one success story to strengthen the
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lot in the media, a peculiar example is
the story on Motherboard about how

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"Cambridge Analytica" helped Trump win the
elections by psychologically profiling the

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entire American population and using
targeted Facebook ads to influence the

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results of the election. This story evokes
the idea that they know more about you

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than your own mother. The article reads
"more likes could even surpass what a

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person thought they knew about themselves"
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seriously scary in very undemocratic as
Cathy O'Neil author of "weapons

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of mass mass destruction" notes, "don't
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It wasn't just Trump everyone was doing it
Hillary was using the groundwork, a

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startup funded by Google's Eric Schmidt,
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groundwork somehow comes across a lot more
cute compared to Cambridge analytica,

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funded by billionaire Robert Mercer who
also is heavily invested in all-tried

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media outlet Breitbart, who describes
itself as a killing machine waging the war

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for the West, he also donated Cambridge
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The Motherboard article and many others
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knowledge Cambridge Analytica has on
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for the company, but most of all a warning
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elections creates a very undemocratic
Asymmetry and available information and

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undermines the notion of an informed
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described the beliefs attached to big data
as a mythology "the widespread believe

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that large datasets offer a higher form of
intelligence and knowledge that can

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generate insights, that were previously
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objectivity and accuracy".
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attempted as early as 1984 in a
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describes how the authority of look of a
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by a computer has a strong persuasive
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acceptance of the proposed model of
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by formulas of human behavior, no
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model can be made. Tim Harford also refers
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assumptions underlying Big Data research,
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overrate, if we simply ignore false
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causation has been knocked off its
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predictions in the stable environment,
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do not understand why things correlate,
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correlation either.
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matter in such large data sets is simply
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sets, as for the idea of why with enough
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that seems hopelessly naive, in data sets
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genuine discoveries. This last point is
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that big data research has brought cherry-
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in a 2007 paper demonstrated that data
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spurious relationship between the changes
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production in Bangladesh. What is strange
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offer some higher form of intelligences,
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qualities to something, while at the same
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and more accurate than humans, but these
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this Oracle and critically has quite far-
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For one it dehumanizes humans by asserting
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and interpretation is unreliable and only
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can we finally see the world as it is.
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is that it is no longer possible to argue
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because first of all it's supposedly bias
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question it, you cannot check if it is
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the analysis are often completely opaque.
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yourself in the wrong category of a social
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decisions on insurance, mortgage, work
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Exclusion from certain privileges is only
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as effective as we might hope. It has a
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so why do we
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with information. Our idea about
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previous century from small statement of
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40s and 50s where information was suddenly
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system be it mechanical physical,
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see Norbert Wiener's moths a machine he
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financed by Life magazine. The photos with
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published, because according to Life's
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characteristics of computers very well.
Norbert Wiener in the human hues of human

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beings wrote,
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adequate information, thus communication
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inner life, even as they belong to his
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simultaneously, Shannon published a
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theory of signals transmitted over
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into the air, describes how over time this
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social scientists who mistook signal for
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Or at Halpern in beautiful data describes
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proved conclusively in struggling with the
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functions could not be logically
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therefore machines were not human minds.
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why we have forgotten this history and do
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rationality. Having forgotten this ten
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intelligence research began comparing
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wrote: the programmed computer and human
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In the 80s, information was granted an
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commodity. Like it or not, information has
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basic resource. Bon appetit! How did we
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Hey sorry *sighs* yeah, this is an image
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the liquids in the body were seen as the
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functioning of our system. A metaphor for
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powered by Springs and gears had been
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as Rene Descartes to assert that humans
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immaterial, completely separated from the
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through the pineal gland, which he
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And we still do it, the brain is commonly
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physical hardware played by the brain, and
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is information processor. It is a metaphor
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Information is the essence of
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full circle, we see machines as human like
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work, we started out with two survival
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others through anthropomorphizing and
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oracles. The first has helped us survive
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towards others - human and non-human. The
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ages, creating the idea of control of
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disaster. So how are they working for us
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We definitely have reasons to be concerned
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our heads: global warming setting in
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our survival, facing the inevitable death
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Earth's research has run out we are in a
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as separate from our bodies, like software
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options.
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consciousness is so similar to computer
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computer. Ray Kurzweil for example
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download human minds to a computer, with
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Rescue Civilization" by Burrows and
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human civilization in a lunar facility.
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hardware of the planet with its oceans and
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And last but not least, the most explicit
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least optimistic outlook on our future,
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Mars, presented in September last year.
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living on Mars seemed possible within our
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A less extreme version of these attempts
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data at our fingertips and clever
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our problems. Soon we'll laugh at our
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our CO2 vacuum cleaners. With this belief
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economies, our politics. We can carry on
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apathy warranted? What is happening while
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Well, information is never disembodied, it
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used in the technology hosting our data
come from conflict zones, resulting in

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slavery and ecocide. As for instance in
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gold mines in Ghana. Minerals used in
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unregulated zones leading to extreme
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lake in Baotou in China. EU waste is
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farms spit out an equal amount of CO2 as
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cannot be separated from the physical, and
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And what is happening is that the earth is
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based on Twitter feeds, but our
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ignored for decades. Scientific consensus
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the dangerously slow response to this, to
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terrorism which has rapidly led to new
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stories, metaphors, and mythologies in the
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than scientific facts. And how threats
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quo are willfully ignored.
So does this survival strategy work? This

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mythology, this belief in taking ourselves
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truth, to reality as it is, separating
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blinds us to the trouble we are in. And
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not a brain in a jar, an organism
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environment, its existence completely
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it shares this planet with, we can't help
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everything around us as part of our social
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is fine, it makes us human. It allows us
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The most important thing is that the
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computer creating, thinking, memorizing,
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and people being hard-wired, stuck in a
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and reprogramming ourselves - those
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You can only hope to create awareness
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about the misleading descriptions of
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machine-like and all of reality as an
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that there will be less blind enchantment
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questions asked about its
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There is no strong AI... yet, only very
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history machines are proxies for human
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issues that need addressing. As Kate
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in the AI Now report, recent examples of
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elections and Brexit, or Facebook
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advertisers looking to target depressed
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deploying advanced data systems can
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ways contrary to individual autonomy and
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being visible at all to those affected.
The report points to many - I highly

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recommend reading it - and here are a few
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nets and human resource distributions when
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change. Workers most likely to be affected
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decision-making systems are often unseen
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assess their fairness, to contest and
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impacts.
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automated... No, sorry.... I'm lost...
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AI systems rarely have a role in designing
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fairness, to confess and rectify wrong and
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lack of methods measuring and assessing
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keep scrolling back.... In any case, there
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of the uniform... uniformity of those
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Oracle we've constructed for what it is
means to stop comforting, comforting

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ourselves, to ask questions. A quote from
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smart people by (?)Muchaichai(?) (?)Clowsky(?),
the pressing ethical questions in machine

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learning are not about machines becoming
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about how people can exploit other people.
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introduce immoral behavior into automated
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rapture, or for Elon Musk to whisk us off
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terms with a more modest perception of
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ethical repercussions of the systems we
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discussion, not the one we hope for, but
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and a new mythology. One that works, not
only for us, but for all those human and

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non-human, we share the planet with.
Thank you. That's it.

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*applause*

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Herald Angel: Thank you, Marloes. Is there
any questions? Like, you would have one

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minute. *laugs* Okay. So, thank you
again. Give her a big applause again,

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thank you.

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*applause*

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*34c3 outro*
